Belt changing - need to pull PS or fan??

billzilla · Post by **billzilla** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:26 am

I need to change my alternator belt and I can't figure out (even though I have a shop manual - can't find belt changing procedure in there) what needs to be pulled/loosened to get it out of there. The fan and crank pullies seem to be touching, one on top of the other, so how the heck does that alternator belt come out?

73sunroofSSP · Post by **73sunroofSSP** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:10 am

Remove ps belt then pull the alt belt .

billzilla · Post by **billzilla** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 11:18 am

Even if I remove the PS belt (I'm not clear on how to loosen the PS pump btw), I don't see how the ALT belt comes out. It's trapped by the two pullies in front of the motor - the fan and crank... Wait, do I pull the fan? Or maybe it'll fit around it. Hmm. Hard to think without looking at it - heh.

Argh, I just realized my brother has my torque wrench, too.

73X · Post by **73X** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:44 pm

Maybe you should bring it to a shop.

Ronnman · Post by **Ronnman** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 3:53 pm

Wait, do I pull the fan? Or maybe it'll fit around it. Hmm. Hard to think without looking at it - heh.

The belts can be worked over and out the front of the fan.
Ron

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Tue Jun 03, 2008 7:07 pm

k, you loosen the bolt on the power steering pump brakcet, the pump should lower down (if not, push it down)...then that belt will be off... after that, loosen the lower alternator bracket bolt (goes through the curved bracket piece and into the alternator. the alternator will lower down, just like the power steering pump...VOILA belts are off

billzilla · Post by **billzilla** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 12:13 pm

I gotta take a pic of this, because the way my car is set up, for some reason, you can't get the rear belt off without removing the fan or crank pulley completely.

here's a diagram of what I'm talking about. The fan pulley and crank pulley are right on top of each other (and they're double pulleys, one isn't being used because there's no A/C on the car anymore).

Erroneous image deleted - see later post.

mopar71 · Post by **mopar71** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 3:04 pm

I get what you are saying! the crank and fan pulleys are so close together that you cant take the alt belt off,you could cut it but the new belt still would have to be put on,in that case you will have to remove the fan pulley. Here is my setup I dont have power steering or a/c.

http://groups.msn.com/MarkandVelana/jun ... otoID=3754

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 6:46 pm

hmm...that seems a bit weird to me...i have double crank pulleys on mine too, but the belt for the alternator is the same one as the fan...the power steering has its own belt...if you have to take the fan and waterpump pulley off, it's not a big deal... just 4 bolts

Smellslike1974 · Post by **Smellslike1974** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:19 pm

Billzilla,is there anyway you can take a picture of your engine bay?

Going by the diagram to posted,if you loosen the altinator mount,loosen the power steering,the belts should be big enough to just wrap around the fan.

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:21 pm

that's what i'm thinking - it may not look like it, but it will wiggle it's way out of there...but taking the fan/pulley off isn't a big deal at all if you cant

Smellslike1974 · Post by **Smellslike1974** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:24 pm

landon1 wrote:that's what i'm thinking - it may not look like it, but it will wiggle it's way out of there...but taking the fan/pulley off isn't a big deal at all if you cant

Not even that if you pull it atleast over one of teh fan blades,and pull it towards the middle,you have enough room to pull it over another blade,just keep doing that,i wanna say its almost like a button to a shirt,you stick in one side wich gives you room for the otherside.ha ha

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:25 pm

yup, that's what i meant by wiggle

i've had to take the belts off my car too many times lol

Smellslike1974 · Post by **Smellslike1974** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:31 pm

landon1 wrote:yup, that's what i meant by wiggle i've had to take the belts off my car too many times lol

Oh yeah

billzilla · Post by **billzilla** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:22 pm

I'll take a pic. You can't get it over the fan because then it would simply be stuck behind those two pulleys on the other side.

Don't want to take this to a shop - I just got tapped out having the front end rebuilt.

Guess I just have to pull one of those pulleys off.