Metal work update on the GTX

ryangtogtx · Post by **ryangtogtx** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:23 pm

Here are some updated pics of the metal work on the GTX. It really gives you a good idea of what kind of cancer lurks beneath and whats involved with fixing it correctly. Enjoy.

http://www.musclecarrestorations.com/ga ... g2_page=13

RS23-71 · Post by **RS23-71** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:27 pm

Dear god man now you got me scared what I will find in my car when its torn down. I do say that is kinda what I would expect from a car coming from the land of salt but mine spents 16 yrs outside in the snow and ice so eeeeeks!

Glad to see they are making some progress on your car and I'm eagerly awaiting its completion.

general · Post by **general** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:57 pm

Wow, great pictures. Looks like that car was acid dipped, right??

How do you like so far??? I'm having a terrible time trying to decide which way to go. Hopefully this fall it will be going in the body shop.

Have you tought ahead. like how to replace the sound deadner inside doors and quarters. Did you dip the hood and deck lid also.

OK I must stop, I'm rambling on.

thanks for sharing
Norm

ryangtogtx · Post by **ryangtogtx** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:43 pm

Yes, the car was dipped and coated with a rust inhibitor. If you look at earlier pages when the car got back from being dipped, you can see all of the parts that got stripped. Pretty much every metal part was dipped included all of the nuts and bolts. That's really the only option to really find out what's going on underneath the paint. A southern car you can get by with media blasting, but a northern car that's been exposed to salt can have serious issues. I'm really happy with the craftsmanship of the metal work. They are done with the right side of the car and you can't even tell where they welded. The left quarter was much worse than the right side though. After metal work is finished, the car will be E-coated. It's really the only way to ensure that the car won't rust again because the E-coat is able to get into every nook and cranny and is baked on. Here's a link to the process.
http://www.musclecarrestorations.com/ecoat.html

mopar71 · Post by **mopar71** » Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:36 pm

Great Pics! I was looking at MCR to possibly do my car.

PasiR · Post by **PasiR** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:59 am

Guys at MCR are real PROs!! Your GTX looks awesome.

ryangtogtx · Post by **ryangtogtx** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:56 am

PasiR wrote:Guys at MCR are real PROs!! Your GTX looks awesome.

Thanks. They are pro's at metal work, but they are lacking in other areas.

Serious Satellite · Post by **Serious Satellite** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:23 pm

Rust. . . . I know what ya mean. Your driver's side front floor pan looks like mine did before I patched it up. ..

AZ-Nick · Post by **AZ-Nick** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 9:12 pm

Ryan, at least you have the right guys doing the work, I am sure you will be happy with the end result of the restoration.
I do have a question for you and you can email me the answer if you feel it would be better. No I am not asking what the cost to restore is but I wanted to ask, since the value or prices have dropped on most of the cars over the year or two, did this company lower there cost in certain areas to compensate it? I know your car has a value that has held stead fast but many other cars did not hold too well.......

ryangtogtx · Post by **ryangtogtx** » Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:54 pm

Nick, MCR hasn't lowered their prices for anything. I think their strategy was to take on more work than they could handle and hope it gets them through the recession. They have a lot of cars stockpiled, waiting to be worked on. There are a lot of guys that only have work done as they can afford, therefore, it might take many years to complete the job. They have a minimum $50/month maintenance charge to store your parts and cars regardless of whether they are currently working on it or not. I don't have a beef with their work, especially their metal work. Chris, their head metal guy, is a true craftsman. My beef has to do with all of the nickle and dime stuff they do and the B.S. runaround you get when you ask why they are almost a year behind schedule. I can't say that I could recommend them unless they get their sh_t straight and start charging realistic prices.

fourforty6pac · Post by **fourforty6pac** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:03 am

If you have a lot of jobs lined up you can afford to bid high because it doesn't matter if you get another one. You won't get as many jobs but you will be commanding top dollar. No one will reduce their prices if they are flush with jobs. If your biding on work for the future you have to take into consideration the increased cost of wages, insurance, unemployment, workers comp, ect.. Sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and take it like a man.

ryangtogtx · Post by **ryangtogtx** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 10:59 am

It has nothing to do with taking it like a man. It has to do with getting screwed. I'd describe this situation as "bait and switch". We were told that the car would be approx. 1000 hours. After the car came back from the stripper, it was in better condition than anticipated, but somehow the figure has now jumped to 1700 hours which is a drastic difference. There is no way they were that far off in their estimate. I have talked to a couple other guys that have had them do cars and they have said the same thing. With business practices like this, MCR won't be in business too much longer in today's economic climate (in my opinion). I can't wait to be done with them.

71440 gtx · Post by **71440 gtx** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:59 pm

, another 700 hours a //// an hour, what a bunch of crooks.

thank god I'm doing my own car, I can weld, paint,bodywork

ps nice gtxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :

landon1 · Post by **landon1** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:46 pm

that's what i've said...you're looking at a minimum 1000 hours shop time at 70 bux an hour - or more...that's over 70 grand...i would bet you have to purchase your own parts, so we'll add another 10K to that...so minimum 80K for a car whose market value is maybe 50K, unless you're doing a super trak pak or hemi car (maybe)- and even then you might not get what you put into it - especially with the way the economy is.

PS i am in no way associated in restoring or fixing a car to sell - that's why i don't really care how "correct" my car is - it's my car, so i'll do what i want

Smellslike1974 · Post by **Smellslike1974** » Thu Jul 24, 2008 6:16 pm

71440 gtx wrote:, another 700 hours a //// an hour, what a bunch of crooks. thank god I'm doing my own car, I can weld, paint,bodywork

ps nice gtxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :

at the same time?